Makaveli@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: : I don't know what you guys mean about not asking permission. I emailed fly and he said yes, I tryed to email neowar's old email address because I couldn't find his new one, and I don't know jack's email. I never planned on getting it out without their permission.

xPreatorianx@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: : Well all I got to say on the whole situation is get permission from the mod leaders or the model maker if he says release it to the public release that is all dont sit here and make a big deal out of it it is a good model if the guy does not want u to release it dont. But if u got permission from a guy higher up from him then release if not then just go about your business im sure other guys in this community can make a model just as good or better and release it in a map or just release it.
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Carnifexx@Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: : Did anyone by any chance ever happen to get this model? And if so then where?

Makaveli@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: Doom 3 Hell On Earth Baron of Hell Model Public Release?: I've been thinking about releasing HoE's Baron model since it's just been sitting around collecting dust.

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Is anyone interested in downloading this puppy?

The one problem is that it hasn't been animated, our team didn't get around to completing that when the mod was unplugged.

xwarpedx@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: : very much so, even if it isnt animated its still a beautiful piece of work im sure someone out there will put it to good use
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Zephbane@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:59 am Post subject: : Funny you mention it. I have just started messing with animation.. I'll use it as my guinie-pig... where can I d/l it?

P.S. As a side note, I still have the Command Frigate Delphi map I was working on. It's nearly complete, as I plan on releasing it when I'm done.

revility@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: : I'd contact neowar and fly soup about this before doing so, it is thier work. Jack as well because it is his design mainly.

Silly Rabbit@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:02 am Post subject: : holy shit that looks good. can someone animate it? along with side stepping animations? then let me use it in my marines-vs-demons mod? kthx
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Taffmaster@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: : Twisted Evil

Sweeeeeeeet, someones gotta animate this baby, it looks soooo good
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Kristus@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:05 am Post subject: : I remember that Neowar didn't have any plans to release the model to be used by just anyone.

EDIT: Argonaut asked me to forward to this thread that Neowar hasn't alowed for his model to be released at all. And he doesn't plan to release it for common people use either. Makaveli; you better take this up with Neowar himself before proceeding with your intended actions or you could find yourself in some serious trouble.
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neowar3020@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: : ok guys, this model should not be realeased to anyone, the things the ex-team had should NOT be released.

argo notified me about this, so please mak dont release it.

Silly Rabbit@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: : damn
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doomkid3000@Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: : lets model the DOOM64 Baron, ohhh wait he's just about the same from the original Doom 2D sprite but higher quality lol Laughing

Kristus@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: : Not really The D64 baron looks really bad. It does have higher resolution though.
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doomkid3000@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: : hehe yeah, it would be cool to model for the heck of it, but yeah a baron would have to look DOOM3 ish a bit, but who knows Surprised

ViPr@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:56 am Post subject: : somebody has already made a high poly model of a baron that they used for an animation. it looks extremely close to the doom1 version.

http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9431

Zephbane@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: :

neowar3020 wrote:

the things the ex-team had should NOT be released.

So your saying the Delphi I was mapping, for a mod that no longer exists, shouldn't be released to the public? Or is that just another way of asking for people to not release work of your's with out permission? (which is fine, btw).

I very much plan on releasing the Delphi map that was for Hell on Earth mod. When ever it's done Razz

rich_is_bored@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:49 am Post subject: : I don't understand the rational behind mod teams witholding assets when their mod fails.

Especially since we're talking about content that is game ready. It just seems like a waste of time considering that a lot of effort was put into making assets work with Doom 3 specifically, only for these assets never to see the light of day.

I can understand people wanting credit for their work and how often times when people do give away assets they don't recieve any credit.

But seriously, we're all making things here and nobody is getting paid for it.

If people are talented enough to produce assets that are top notch like this model here then certainly they won't have any trouble jumping on board another mod team and getting their work out their and noticed.

That's what you all want credit for anyways right?
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ViPr@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: : the reason is that the author is probably using it for another engine or another mod.

Zephbane@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: :

ViPr wrote:

the reason is that the author is probably using it for another engine or another mod.

Good point

rich_is_bored wrote:

I don't understand the rational behind mod teams witholding assets when their mod fails.

Especially since we're talking about content that is game ready. It just seems like a waste of time considering that a lot of effort was put into making assets work with Doom 3 specifically, only for these assets never to see the light of day.

I can understand people wanting credit for their work and how often times when people do give away assets they don't recieve any credit.

But seriously, we're all making things here and nobody is getting paid for it.

If people are talented enough to produce assets that are top notch like this model here then certainly they won't have any trouble jumping on board another mod team and getting their work out their and noticed.

That's what you all want credit for anyways right?

I agree 100%

Kristus@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: : As I see it it's up to neowar weather he want to release it or not. Makaveli who only were on the HoE team as a forum moderator (IIRC), shouldn't (and doesn't) have any right to release Neowars models. Whatever reason Neowar may have for not wanting to release his model, is entirely up to him weather they are valid or not.
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Enforcer@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: : Well now i have to agree with Kristus/neowar3020/ and anyone else who said it should not b released, you basically releasing someone elses work with out their permission! Now im sorry i asked for the model!
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Meh Whatever@Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: : That doesn't change that it's difficult to follow the reasoning behind not releasing assets, assuming they're just lying around.

Is there a miscontent with the product, a fear that it wont receive deserving credit, plans for future use or what?

Of course, no matter what, it's the author's decision, so I'll shut up now. Wink