i had no probs with my low poly renderbump, its gotta b the the way your setting up the model or the mtr

http://quake4arena.planetquake.gamespy. ... Border.zip

theres a small sample i did. it works.

Just copy the files to q4base or d3base dir

the files included are

materials/Renderbump.mtr
models/Renderbump/Supporborder_hi and lo.ase
textures/renderbump/
max model/supportborder.max (for max

- you can try other version but i wont garuntee anything

to test the renderbump

for quake 4, load up quake4.exe not the editors and bring the console down and type ( Renderbump models/renderbump/supportborder_lo.ase)

then it will start the renderbump process

for doom3

open the models/renderbump/supportborder_lo.ase in a text editor.
Change the bitmap path from //q4base/... to //base/...

then run the Renderbump

IE: Renderbump models/renderbump/supportborder_lo.ase

ah, so THAT'S what's missing in my ASE file (the bitmap defining portion). Renderbump actually works now. Thanks!

I am running into a simular problem I want to render out my characters high poly mesh into a normal map using this method. I think every time I try to renderbump in the consol its not reconizing my mtr file.

This is my mtr file code

Code:

//----------------------------Faction_Grunt---MatierialCode-----------------------------------------------

textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt

{
        noselfShadow
        unsmoothedtangents

renderbump  -size 1024 1024 -trace .05 -aa 2 -mergehigh  textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_local.tga  models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_High.ase

// The above is one line

diffusemap              textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_d.tga
bumpmap addnormals ( textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_local.tga, heightmap ( textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_h.tga, 1 ) )

}

And here is my low poly model ase code

Code:

*3DSMAX_ASCIIEXPORT   200
*COMMENT "AsciiExport Version  2.00 - Sat Jul 01 12:49:23 2006"
*SCENE {
   *SCENE_FILENAME "FactionGrunt1.3Low.max"
   *SCENE_FIRSTFRAME 0
   *SCENE_LASTFRAME 100
   *SCENE_FRAMESPEED 30
   *SCENE_TICKSPERFRAME 160
   *SCENE_BACKGROUND_STATIC 0.0000   0.0000   0.0000
   *SCENE_AMBIENT_STATIC 0.0000   0.0000   0.0000
}
*MATERIAL_LIST {
   *MATERIAL 1 {
      *MATERIAL_NAME "orig_09 - Default"
      *MATERIAL_CLASS "Standard"
      *MATERIAL_AMBIENT 0.5882   0.5882   0.5882
      *MATERIAL_DIFFUSE 0.5882   0.5882   0.5882
      *MATERIAL_SPECULAR 0.9000   0.9000   0.9000
      *MATERIAL_SHINE 0.1000
      *MATERIAL_SHINESTRENGTH 0.0000
      *MATERIAL_TRANSPARENCY 0.0000
      *MATERIAL_WIRESIZE 1.0000
      *MATERIAL_SHADING Blinn
      *MATERIAL_XP_FALLOFF 0.0000
      *MATERIAL_SELFILLUM 0.0000
      *MATERIAL_FALLOFF In
      *MATERIAL_XP_TYPE Filter
      *MAP_DIFFUSE {
         *MAP_NAME "Map #7"
         *MAP_CLASS "Bitmap"
         *MAP_SUBNO 1
         *MAP_AMOUNT 1.0000
         *BITMAP "\\base\textures\faction_enemies\Faction_Grunt"
         *MAP_TYPE Screen
         *UVW_U_OFFSET 0.0000
         *UVW_V_OFFSET 0.0000
         *UVW_U_TILING 1.0000
         *UVW_V_TILING 1.0000
         *UVW_ANGLE 0.0000
         *UVW_BLUR 1.0000
         *UVW_BLUR_OFFSET 0.0000
         *UVW_NOUSE_AMT 1.0000
         *UVW_NOISE_SIZE 1.0000
         *UVW_NOISE_LEVEL 1
         *UVW_NOISE_PHASE 0.0000
         *BITMAP_FILTER Pyramidal
      }
   }
}
*GEOMOBJECT {
   *NODE_NAME "Faction_Grunt_Body_Low"
   *NODE_TM {
      *NODE_NAME "Faction_Grunt_Body_Low"
      *INHERIT_POS 0 0 0
      *INHERIT_ROT 0 0 0
      *INHERIT_SCL 0 0 0
      *TM_ROW0 1.3319   0.0000   0.0000
      *TM_ROW1 0.0000   1.3319   0.0038
      *TM_ROW2 0.0000   -0.0051   1.7821
      *TM_ROW3 -12.0706   -4.0410   177.3410
      *TM_POS -12.0706   -4.0410   177.3410
      *TM_ROTAXIS -1.0000   0.0000   0.0000
      *TM_ROTANGLE 0.0028
      *TM_SCALE 1.3319   1.3319   1.7821
      *TM_SCALEAXIS 0.0000   0.0000   0.0000
      *TM_SCALEAXISANG 0.0000
   }

Whenever I try to type in the doom3 consol litterally......

Code:

Renderbump models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_Low.ase

I get and error just like in the picture saying to specify the -size -trace ect.

I thought the .mtr file was suppossed to take care of that for me. Even when I do try as best as I can to specify it by typing into the consol....

Code:

 renderbump models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_Low.ase -size 1024 1024 -trace .05 -aa 2 -mergehigh  textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_local.tga  models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_High.ase

I get an error saying

Usage: renderbump <lowPolyModel>

What am I doing wrong here? I know its alot but I am so thankful for any help so please do! Thanks

All you guys are using 3D Studio Max, right?

yeah I used 3ds max and exported them as an ase

Have you checked the model in der_tons model veiwer just to make sure it's ok?

kat wrote:

Have you checked the model in der_tons model veiwer just to make sure it's ok?

I was not aware that der_ton made one, can you provide the link please I cant seem to find it on the search.

Well, I was able to get the renderer to work I had to take off the -mergehigh (which I adapted from the Quake 4 tutorial) from the code. Apparently Doom3 does not like that command so after I erased it started working. However, once again my normal maps just seems to always look bad :cry:

. Such as just now I tried modeling a simple box with various shapes bevels and indentions on it, but it is still horrible looking. I tried messing with the trace alot but it just seems to render out deformed all the time.

Here is the pic of my last renderd normalmap for the simple box.

I have a zipped folder of the box, if someone could look at it and give me some tips I would be really happy about it. I'll email it to you. Various members at this site have been great helpers to me on this and I hope together we can get this normapping issue stright.

MichaelZee wrote:

kat wrote:

Have you checked the model in der_tons model veiwer just to make sure it's ok?

I was not aware that der_ton made one, can you provide the link please I cant seem to find it on the search...

I've got it mirrored on my webbly site here

I've seen that error before on the forums but I can't remember what the fix was. Try splitting the top and bottom face from the mesh and processing that as it might be related to smoothing.

WOW!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

I just looked at the model in the modelveiwer and my normal map looks so much better

. I was allways looking at them in 3dsmax and I was getting misleading resualts. This is a great start and even though my normal maps are currently not perfect, I'll continue to try and make them better. Thank you doom3world and everyone, Ill post here if i ever have anymore questions.

Hi

Just a little something I ran into while render bumping with the mtr code.

Code:

textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt   //Body

{
        noselfShadow
        unsmoothedtangents

renderbump  -size 1024 1024 -trace .05 -aa 2 textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_local.tga  models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Body_High.ase

}

textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt   //Chamber

{
        noselfShadow
        unsmoothedtangents

renderbump  -size 1024 1024 -trace .05 -aa 2 textures/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Chamber_local.tga  models/faction_enemies/Faction_Grunt_Chamber_High.ase

}

These are two shaders from my characters renderbump in the mtr code. How can I make it to where I can have doom 3 render them all at once. This is my code right now and with it I have to keep rendering the mtr's individually and its becoming quite a doozie having to cut out all the shaders and leave one>renderbump>then paest all the shaders back ect.
So how should this code look to where it can all render at once.

Thanks!