Registration for the BYOC area will kick off at 9 p.m. ET on April 30, 2008

http://www.quakecon.org/

It's usually a fun time (been in 2005 & 07) but I don't think I'm going this year unless there's something majorly different this time around.

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

simulation wrote:

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

He's probably talking about some stupid contradiction in the name.

E.g.:

"RTCW2 doesn't exist because technically there was already second game that other time before, not to mention that other game that was released on that other thingy, so this game is TECHNICALLY R-R-RTCW4, and should not be considered a true part of the series because of these other obnoxious reasons."

Sorry I had to make a rant about people who go nuts over game titles. (Which kat did not, I was the one that went nuts...

)

Anyway, I don't know much about RTCW, but from what I've heard, there is another one in the making. I suspect if that's true they would probably release more info at QuakeCon. Not to mention more Rage info. At QuakeCon '07 they said that more info would trickle in about Rage in the following months, but I don't think it did.

Even so, I'll be looking forward to the four day long party with all kinds of free stuff. Every year since '06 I prayed that I would get called up for a Quake 4 Quick Draw tourney (I'm pretty good at Q4), but I never get raffled. It sucks because most people that get called for the Q4 Quick Draw have NEVER played Quake, so they suck bad. You basically get 1 thousand dollars for going up and pwning some n00b who never played the game. And at the final party you can risk your 1 grand for 2 grand by playing another match, and I would totally do that. (Why not go all out?)

QuakeCon is like a four day party. Regardless of the announcements made, you're going to have a good time.

Another year where I don't have the time to attend. But one day I will.

Dinky wrote:

.. some funny stuff Dinky said...

hehe

July 31st seriously?

Another year I'll be gone for stupid army training. I was planning on attending with my etqw clan but I guess I'll just have to look forward to next year once again, watch the keynotes when I get back this september :cry:

Phobos wrote:

July 31st seriously?

Another year I'll be gone for stupid army training. I was planning on attending with my etqw clan but I guess I'll just have to look forward to next year once again, watch the keynotes when I get back this september :cry:

It's always in August. I don't know why they signed for July 31st this year (it's July 31st - August 3rd), probably something they had to do because of certain scheduling at the Hilton, and this was the closest time they could get.

It's still in August though... The bulk of it anyway.

I'd like to see anything new at all from id Software (& co.) including anything in the works for handhelds/mobiles or whatever, I really hope there's some visual news on both Rage and RtCW2, which it may as well be called anyway. It's kinda silly to say it doesn't exist when there's a whole forum here dedicated to it.

You know what I'd really love? I'm gonna tell you anyways! I'd love it if they were to announce at least hints on the editing of the newer games. Are the new titles going to use roughly the same assets as the previous tech-4 titles? What about map editing? Just anything to indicate that it may just be possible to begin working on Rage assets now, as it might just use the same old normalmaps and meshes that Doom3 does, you know what I mean? I don't see the big deal in announcing such things for the sake of the modding community that may want to get straight to work on things now, whatever the consequences.
For example, if I knew I could make some Quake 3 Arena map that would be "portable" to Doom3 I may have been inclined to start on a singleplayer map in the post-Q3A lull. Maybe there's a bunch of reasons why it just doesn't work this way and why they wouldn't announce such technical details about their unreleased games, but it'd be nice to feel more confident about it rather than waiting for the moment it's released just to find out it's a revamped version of the Doom3 engine all over again.

it's that date because it's a thursday-friday-saturday event & it's normally the first or second week in august.

BTW, I'm vibrating in place.

I suspect allot of do overs were done for wolf2 considering they announced and show concepts for a long time ago.

There will be no wolf2. I put money on major quake live pimping, more rage, and maybe whatever splash damage is working on being announced.

The Happy Friar wrote:

it's that date because it's a thursday-friday-saturday event & it's normally the first or second week in august.

Oh I see.

revility wrote:

I suspect allot of do overs were done for wolf2 considering they announced and show concepts for a long time ago.

There will be no wolf2. I put money on major quake live pimping, more rage, and maybe whatever splash damage is working on being announced.

Meh, anything could happen. Quake Live beta may launch at QuakeCon (if not sooner), for the LAN. If not for the testing of LAN features, then for the LAN and the fans at least. They did it with QW beta last year (it was the beta 2 I think).

I think RTCW2 - or 3, or Wolf2 or 3, or whatever - could quite possibly been shown. It's just been so long since we've seen anything, years. You'd figure they would have a lot done by now. I wouldn't doubt that they idea hopped in the middle of development, but I really don't think they're still in the concepting stages today.

I don't know. It just seems most likely we'll see some Wolfenstein related stuff, but we won't know until QuakeCon.

we better see some wolfenstein stuff. its been 2.5 years since they announced it and there have been reports that id/raven/activision are targeting a 2008 release.

i did a trademark search and nothing comes up for the new wolfenstein game. they sould have trademarked something by now. here's the link. just search for "id software" with "owner name & address" selected.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=s ... f6l7uo.1.1

its also coming out on the xbox360 first by the way...

pbmax wrote:

its been 2.5 years since they announced it and there have been reports that id/raven/activision are targeting a 2008 release.

wasn't that an ACCIDENTAL announcement too? I think last year was the first official announcement.

LDAsh wrote:

I'd like to see anything new at all from id Software (& co.) including anything in the works for handhelds/mobiles or whatever, I really hope there's some visual news on both Rage and RtCW2, which it may as well be called anyway. It's kinda silly to say it doesn't exist when there's a whole forum here dedicated to it.

I agree with you about the 'silence' coming out of id at the moment. It's very frustrating. Whenever Carmack breaks cover and decides to speak it's always news - but it's not very often these days that he does.

I dunno - it seems idTech4, as much as we all love it, never was the 'next big thing' for id (U3Engine seems to have pretty much cleaned up the market in its wake, though I'm not a huge fan, tbh). Maybe it's got the folks at id cowed.

ET:QW comes out soon on 360 here in the UK. I'm hoping that might lead to a resurgence of interest in whatever id's up to at the moment on all platforms. We'll see. Might even get an interview or two out of Mesquite...

We might bring what we're working on to this QuakeCon, nothing definite just yet, but we are talking about it.

Early registration and BYOC check-in starts today.

On Thursady 6:00 PM - 09:30 PM there will be the id Software press conference and John Carmack keynote. Usually this is on the last day, right?

** So, just one more day until we get the goods!!! **

Dinky wrote:

simulation wrote:

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

He's probably talking about some stupid contradiction in the name.

E.g.:

"RTCW2 doesn't exist because technically there was already second game that other time before, not to mention that other game that was released on that other thingy, so this game is TECHNICALLY R-R-RTCW4, and should not be considered a true part of the series because of these other obnoxious reasons."

Anyway, I don't know much about RTCW, but from what I've heard, there is another one in the making. I suspect if that's true they would probably release more info at QuakeCon. Not to mention more Rage info. At QuakeCon '07 they said that more info would trickle in about Rage in the following months, but I don't think it did.

Isn't it just called 'Wolfenstein'? I thought I remembered something from that on IGN or somewhere from a very breif release of the logo and a few images during E3. Time to head over to them thar forums and read up on how wrong/misinformed I may very well be.

Mordenkainen wrote:

link

this

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Mordenkainen wrote:

Audio feed of the keynote. My kung fu is better than gamespot's so here's the direct link. :lol:

It cuts off near the end so it actually missed the most interesting part of the keynote (id Tech 6). You can use this to make up for it while we wait for a complete keynote video (i'd be happy with a complete audio feed even).

Thanks, can't wait to hear (or see?) the ending.

qwertz123 wrote:

and here mine: dont respond to stupid sheit from stupid peeps, easy as that.

aim scum, so pls ban me bna, just to accomplish ur visitors!

It's always good to have at least one person teaching the rest how bad attitude looks like. Therefore I consider you an asset.

Another interview with Carmack,very interesting stuff:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... _pc_gaming

Can't wait for part 2 where he will express his opinion on Nvidia's Cuda, Intel's Larrabee, and ATI's rumored Fusion.

The keynote video is online now!

http://quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/video/

ZizZ^ wrote:

The keynote video is online now!

http://quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/video/

sweet, does this have the Q&A by any chance? Would love to see that.

here's my q-con photo gallery:
http://sterlingshield.net/home/steve/St ... index.html

images of me & wife, stuff in BYOC, bawls chugging (she liked that), dallas, and our "id hunt". Sadly, I don't think we found id, both address we had seemed to be to building that didn't house them.

The Happy Friar wrote:

here's my q-con photo gallery:
http://sterlingshield.net/home/steve/St ... index.html

images of me & wife, stuff in BYOC, bawls chugging (she liked that), dallas, and our "id hunt". Sadly, I don't think we found id, both address we had seemed to be to building that didn't house them.

cool stuff Friar, thanks for sharing. I like how you got some pictures of the awesome cases that always show up to QuakeCon.

my fav this year was the grill. Totally awesome.

Go figure, the wife asked when we were down there "how come YOU don't do something like this?".

I know this topic has been beaten to death, but when the questioner asked Carmack about the "cleaning up" (ie no blood and gore) of Quake 3 for Quake Live, Carmack didn't go into detail about the maps themselves. Personally, I have to problem with taking the blood and gore and gibs out of the actual action in Quake live (which was confirmed) especially if the spark effect looks cool, but I would have a problem with them editing the art in the levels and such. Can anybody who's in the beta right now confirm if the pentagrams, skulls etc. have been taken out of maps like Q3Dm7 or not?

I think Carmack's comments around 1:46 in really put the heated debate on this forum into perspective.

to me, one of the best things of playing quake 1, 2 & 3 was watching people explode when you hit them with a rocket. It's part of the "awesomeness" factor. Like the baddies vaporizing in the last two Zelda games.

in the quakelive trailer, you see a guy disappear in a small firey explosion (istead of the gibs & blood splat).

Part 2 of maximum PC interview:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... tel_vs_ati

Very technical stuff.Recommend reading.

Registration for the BYOC area will kick off at 9 p.m. ET on April 30, 2008

http://www.quakecon.org/

It's usually a fun time (been in 2005 & 07) but I don't think I'm going this year unless there's something majorly different this time around.

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

simulation wrote:

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

He's probably talking about some stupid contradiction in the name.

E.g.:

"RTCW2 doesn't exist because technically there was already second game that other time before, not to mention that other game that was released on that other thingy, so this game is TECHNICALLY R-R-RTCW4, and should not be considered a true part of the series because of these other obnoxious reasons."

Sorry I had to make a rant about people who go nuts over game titles. (Which kat did not, I was the one that went nuts...

)

Anyway, I don't know much about RTCW, but from what I've heard, there is another one in the making. I suspect if that's true they would probably release more info at QuakeCon. Not to mention more Rage info. At QuakeCon '07 they said that more info would trickle in about Rage in the following months, but I don't think it did.

Even so, I'll be looking forward to the four day long party with all kinds of free stuff. Every year since '06 I prayed that I would get called up for a Quake 4 Quick Draw tourney (I'm pretty good at Q4), but I never get raffled. It sucks because most people that get called for the Q4 Quick Draw have NEVER played Quake, so they suck bad. You basically get 1 thousand dollars for going up and pwning some n00b who never played the game. And at the final party you can risk your 1 grand for 2 grand by playing another match, and I would totally do that. (Why not go all out?)

QuakeCon is like a four day party. Regardless of the announcements made, you're going to have a good time.

Another year where I don't have the time to attend. But one day I will.

Dinky wrote:

.. some funny stuff Dinky said...

hehe

July 31st seriously?

Another year I'll be gone for stupid army training. I was planning on attending with my etqw clan but I guess I'll just have to look forward to next year once again, watch the keynotes when I get back this september :cry:

Phobos wrote:

July 31st seriously?

Another year I'll be gone for stupid army training. I was planning on attending with my etqw clan but I guess I'll just have to look forward to next year once again, watch the keynotes when I get back this september :cry:

It's always in August. I don't know why they signed for July 31st this year (it's July 31st - August 3rd), probably something they had to do because of certain scheduling at the Hilton, and this was the closest time they could get.

It's still in August though... The bulk of it anyway.

I'd like to see anything new at all from id Software (& co.) including anything in the works for handhelds/mobiles or whatever, I really hope there's some visual news on both Rage and RtCW2, which it may as well be called anyway. It's kinda silly to say it doesn't exist when there's a whole forum here dedicated to it.

You know what I'd really love? I'm gonna tell you anyways! I'd love it if they were to announce at least hints on the editing of the newer games. Are the new titles going to use roughly the same assets as the previous tech-4 titles? What about map editing? Just anything to indicate that it may just be possible to begin working on Rage assets now, as it might just use the same old normalmaps and meshes that Doom3 does, you know what I mean? I don't see the big deal in announcing such things for the sake of the modding community that may want to get straight to work on things now, whatever the consequences.
For example, if I knew I could make some Quake 3 Arena map that would be "portable" to Doom3 I may have been inclined to start on a singleplayer map in the post-Q3A lull. Maybe there's a bunch of reasons why it just doesn't work this way and why they wouldn't announce such technical details about their unreleased games, but it'd be nice to feel more confident about it rather than waiting for the moment it's released just to find out it's a revamped version of the Doom3 engine all over again.

it's that date because it's a thursday-friday-saturday event & it's normally the first or second week in august.

BTW, I'm vibrating in place.

I suspect allot of do overs were done for wolf2 considering they announced and show concepts for a long time ago.

There will be no wolf2. I put money on major quake live pimping, more rage, and maybe whatever splash damage is working on being announced.

The Happy Friar wrote:

it's that date because it's a thursday-friday-saturday event & it's normally the first or second week in august.

Oh I see.

revility wrote:

I suspect allot of do overs were done for wolf2 considering they announced and show concepts for a long time ago.

There will be no wolf2. I put money on major quake live pimping, more rage, and maybe whatever splash damage is working on being announced.

Meh, anything could happen. Quake Live beta may launch at QuakeCon (if not sooner), for the LAN. If not for the testing of LAN features, then for the LAN and the fans at least. They did it with QW beta last year (it was the beta 2 I think).

I think RTCW2 - or 3, or Wolf2 or 3, or whatever - could quite possibly been shown. It's just been so long since we've seen anything, years. You'd figure they would have a lot done by now. I wouldn't doubt that they idea hopped in the middle of development, but I really don't think they're still in the concepting stages today.

I don't know. It just seems most likely we'll see some Wolfenstein related stuff, but we won't know until QuakeCon.

we better see some wolfenstein stuff. its been 2.5 years since they announced it and there have been reports that id/raven/activision are targeting a 2008 release.

i did a trademark search and nothing comes up for the new wolfenstein game. they sould have trademarked something by now. here's the link. just search for "id software" with "owner name & address" selected.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=s ... f6l7uo.1.1

its also coming out on the xbox360 first by the way...

pbmax wrote:

its been 2.5 years since they announced it and there have been reports that id/raven/activision are targeting a 2008 release.

wasn't that an ACCIDENTAL announcement too? I think last year was the first official announcement.

LDAsh wrote:

I'd like to see anything new at all from id Software (& co.) including anything in the works for handhelds/mobiles or whatever, I really hope there's some visual news on both Rage and RtCW2, which it may as well be called anyway. It's kinda silly to say it doesn't exist when there's a whole forum here dedicated to it.

I agree with you about the 'silence' coming out of id at the moment. It's very frustrating. Whenever Carmack breaks cover and decides to speak it's always news - but it's not very often these days that he does.

I dunno - it seems idTech4, as much as we all love it, never was the 'next big thing' for id (U3Engine seems to have pretty much cleaned up the market in its wake, though I'm not a huge fan, tbh). Maybe it's got the folks at id cowed.

ET:QW comes out soon on 360 here in the UK. I'm hoping that might lead to a resurgence of interest in whatever id's up to at the moment on all platforms. We'll see. Might even get an interview or two out of Mesquite...

We might bring what we're working on to this QuakeCon, nothing definite just yet, but we are talking about it.

Early registration and BYOC check-in starts today.

On Thursady 6:00 PM - 09:30 PM there will be the id Software press conference and John Carmack keynote. Usually this is on the last day, right?

** So, just one more day until we get the goods!!! **

Dinky wrote:

simulation wrote:

kat wrote:

aaa111 wrote:

I am very confident that RTCW2 will be at this year Quakecon.

You'll be grossly disappointed, there's no such game.

What happened to it? I thought Raven were working on it?

He's probably talking about some stupid contradiction in the name.

E.g.:

"RTCW2 doesn't exist because technically there was already second game that other time before, not to mention that other game that was released on that other thingy, so this game is TECHNICALLY R-R-RTCW4, and should not be considered a true part of the series because of these other obnoxious reasons."

Anyway, I don't know much about RTCW, but from what I've heard, there is another one in the making. I suspect if that's true they would probably release more info at QuakeCon. Not to mention more Rage info. At QuakeCon '07 they said that more info would trickle in about Rage in the following months, but I don't think it did.

Isn't it just called 'Wolfenstein'? I thought I remembered something from that on IGN or somewhere from a very breif release of the logo and a few images during E3. Time to head over to them thar forums and read up on how wrong/misinformed I may very well be.

Yes it will be called just plain Wolfenstein, RTCW2 is kind of like a double negative, but again Wolfenstein3d was'nt in real 3d so what's the big deal?

pbmax wrote:

Early registration and BYOC check-in starts today.

On Thursady 6:00 PM - 09:30 PM there will be the id Software press conference and John Carmack keynote. Usually this is on the last day, right?

** So, just one more day until we get the goods!!! **

can't wait.

Hey id,give us some direct feed rage media.

Live video feeds of Quakecon including id Software's presentation and Carmack's keynote tonight at 6:00PM: http://www.quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/home.php

HD Video (not live) of keynote: http://www.quakeunity.com/

More live feeds here: http://www.mogulus.com/tgn

Quake live tutorial:
http://www.vimeo.com/1405511

live coverage is in progress! its like being there! not.

Thanks for the links pbmax.

Convenient link to check on time: http://www.google.com/search?q=time+in+texas

Oh wow. I didn't know you could do that with Google. Sweet. :lol:

rich_is_bored wrote:

Oh wow. I didn't know you could do that with Google. Sweet. :lol:

Nor did I. So I make it a little under an hour until the keynote?

Should have started 14 minutes ago, but ettv's stream is still offline.

With that and tgn's streaming saying their transmission won't work today anymore, I'm under the impression we're out of luck.

-edit- Direct link to broadcast, but still now working: http://www.enemyterritory.tv/live-video.php

i don't know what's going on. its probably running late, but still you'd think they would start feeding a shot of the stage.

there's rumors of doom4 info.

here's a live blog: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... e_liveblog

Damn, I'm excited as at first time (begins to be late here.... :roll:

can't wait !), so WolfRPG announced ?

Woot, new stuff on the live blog...

This from IRC:

Quote:

<h`FishStix> so ET.TV wasn't able to get internet in the room of the conferance, there was no way. Sorry for the inconvenienve

And this:

Quote:

They're having the same issues as everyone else, including us at TGN. QuakeCon event coordinators screwed the pooch when it came to having substantial access to the Internet. Their setup is great for LAN, but from what I've heard there's basically zero chance of getting a good speed from the event itself.

I know that TGN is recording footage of various events and will try and upload the footage later after departing for the hotel room or elsewhere.

So yeah, forget it.

Thanks for the liveblogging link! Here's another:
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/895/895619p1.html

Love this entry

6:38pm - Doom IV time! Says the world official announcement for the next Doom game is right here, right now! Doom logo on screen. Room is full of yelling. No details, "but there will be blood." Also guns. Someone yells flashlights and laughter ensues. Says there will be demons. As well as gibs. "It's going to be kick ass!"

HELL YEAH!!

ahh so quake zero became quake live because quakezero.com was not owned by id software, makes sense.

Quote:

"But if they do a Wolfenstein Live, how do you explain ads for modern products if you're shooting Nazis?"

Ahah, love that one :mrgreen:

Still sad though, Quake Zero was a great name in my opinion.

Quote:

Says that they've dropped the idea of making another Quake project built on id Tech 5; they've instead decided to focus on Doom instead. That's not to say that they won't ever make a Quake game built on id Tech 5, but it's just not on the boards anymore.

Only Quake this year: Quake Live.
Makes sense to me after Q4 & ET:QW + Rage announcement. Now we'll have to wait for any D4 shot... Too early at the moment I suppose.

About the Quake Zero, yeah, the name is cool, but I find Quake Live to fit better to what they did (Quake Zero being a probable mean to make a new big production & relates what happened before, etc...)

a little bit more elaboration from shacknews:

Quote:

A new full-featured Quake Arena title will probably not be developed if Quake Live is not successful, according to comments made by id Software's John Carmack today.

"The door is not completely shut for another Quake project, and I'd say probably the success of Quake Live is going to determine whether or not we do another Quake Arena project," said Carmack.

"But right now the publishers aren't all that interested in a multiplayer project on there."

Doesn't look like will see anything tangible out of Doom 4 right now. Here's a quote from Eurogamer:

Earlier we asked Rage project lead Tim Willits about Doom 4, which is being headed up by a team run by Kevin Cloud. "I think during the conference when Todd talks about it, he's just going to have the Doom logo up," he said. So it proved. So there's nothing tangible to see, we asked? "No, no. It's way early."

Oh well. It's what I expected. I hope they'll show something soon though!

Another entry that I just love!

7:38pm - Now he's talking about Doom. Says they get a lot of resumes from very smart people who want to build new systems like AI, but they don't need them right now because they haven't come close to expoiting the technology they have now. But the gist of Doom is that they're going to have a lot more creative freedom on Doom, because the technology will not be much of a limit.

AH!.........faints from too much happiness

I cannot believe my doomed eyes. This tiny piece of Doom 4 news has me panting like Miles Dyson from Terminator 2!

Gamevideos have new rage trailer:
http://gamevideos.com/download?videoId= ... 40x360.mov

Pretty impressive.Great job id.

the sound of the scream from the last car that crashed is the berserk powerup sound in doom 3.

Wow. Hope we can get some direct feed footage. The physics look really nice.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37832.html
hd ,a little better quality

hyperblaster in RAGE?

john_doe2 wrote:

Wow. Hope we can get some direct feed footage. The physics look really nice.

Yeah the physics look fun.The ragdoll also look nice.

The new Rage and Wolfenstein trailers look great, I can't wait to get high quality direct captures either.

Something Texas Instruments is demonstrating at QuakeCon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmJG_NHHfHg

pbmax wrote:

here's a live blog: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... e_liveblog

zeh wrote:

Thanks for the liveblogging link! Here's another:
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/895/895619p1.html

After reading both of those, I recommend the maximumpc one, it has way more info and is better written. The ign one was apparently written by some incompetent kid who didn't manage to concentrate past the first 20 minutes. Whenever it gets slightly technical, he doesn't even try to roughly reproduce it in his text.

Hell, that extended Rage video is awesome :twisted:

It's crazy to see the same tech applied to 2 games and see how the artistic part makes differences...

pbmax wrote:

HD Video (not live) of keynote: http://www.quakeunity.com/

I can't seem to find the keynote video

- does it have some special name ?

There is none yet afaik.

Sebultura wrote:

Hell, that extended Rage video is awesome :twisted:

It's crazy to see the same tech applied to 2 games and see how the artistic part makes differences...

Are you serious?!?

No way Wolf use id tech 5! You clearly see that Wolf have some huge polygons limitations on characters, and FX/particles... no motion blur, or any advanced post processes effects...

It must be the death of Raven if they made this result (Wolf) with a so more powerfull technology.

The new Wolf runs on the Q3 engine right? I wonder if Raven uses their own enhanced version from SoF2 or if they've made improvements, it's so hard to tell..

What? What is going on here? Wolfenstein runs on id Tech 4, Rage runs on id Tech 5. Where's the confusion?

I think Ww3 made a funny. But I am no sure.

I can see where he's coming from though. The characters in Wolfenstein certainly looks comparable to those seen in RTCW.

Zenix wrote:

What? What is going on here? Wolfenstein runs on id Tech 4, Rage runs on id Tech 5. Where's the confusion?

Biesman wrote:

On the tech side, Wolfenstein uses what Biessman refers to as "id tech 4.5." The DOOM engine that Raven heavily modified to create Quake IV has been built upon even further, and the Havok physics engine has also been integrated, allowing for the physics effects that we've now come to expect from shooters

id tech 4.5 it is :lol:

Where is that quote from ?

Hey, keep cool, gentlemen: when I was refering to the "same tech", I meant the same D3 base tech, not idTech 4 vs 5

Edit: ok my message was badly turned and source of confusion, anyway, I was rather refering to the artistic side of the things, not the technical aspect.

carmack interview:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3 ... k_and_.php

^nice.

rich_is_bored wrote:

Something Texas Instruments is demonstrating at QuakeCon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmJG_NHHfHg

Return of the 3D glasses!

Anyway, they seem to work without a wire, which is quite an improvement from those old goggles my Geforce 256 (== model 1) used to have.
Also, did they point out what gfx-card should be used? Or is it two PC's connected to one big monitor?

One thing I really like from all the interviews is how open id is talking this year. They aren't denying or really defending universaly agreed faults of previous titles, and they did speak about how some games didn't do as well as they should have. I really wish more developers were like this.

The small bits of doom4 info are really great. It sounds like they are making a sequal with what the doom spirit really is, and not what people remember it being. Nice to see they already squashed the game not being m rated rumor.

Just no Doom 2 movie ok? :wink:

Kamikazee wrote:

rich_is_bored wrote:

Something Texas Instruments is demonstrating at QuakeCon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmJG_NHHfHg

Return of the 3D glasses!

Anyway, they seem to work without a wire, which is quite an improvement from those old goggles my Geforce 256 (== model 1) used to have.
Also, did they point out what gfx-card should be used? Or is it two PC's connected to one big monitor?

I would guess it's polarized glass and 2 monitor inputs on the thing, that's how the best 3d-displays (that require glasses) work.

According to the guy in the video it's a special monitor that runs at 120hz.

I've done a bit of searching to try and dig up some more info on this. It appears to be a special HDTV and the tech is called dualview...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/texa ... echnology/
http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/007047.php

Kristus wrote:

I think Ww3 made a funny. But I am no sure.

I can see where he's coming from though. The characters in Wolfenstein certainly looks comparable to those seen in RTCW.

Thank you

My point exactly.
They're downgrading the D3 Engine because it's too specialized for dark, moody games. Graphically Prey worked great with this and, to a lesser extent, Quake4.
ETQW already was a major graphical step back with characters looking like they were "pasted in" (to paraphrase John Carmack from the Doom3 announcement a few years back), now Wolfenstein is giving us even less to be excited about, graphically. Nevermind it being about two years older when it releases.

Ah, yes, I read around a little, and it's just shutter glasses, a shame, really. Means any computer could do the same with a bit of programming and any 3d glasses made in the past 10-15 years. I really thought they had made something new and awesome

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Any news about some proper videos of the keynotes and conferences yet ?

from http://quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/

Quote:

The keynote video we have is super big and we need to go through it and sync certain parts. That is why it has not been uploaded yet. We may break it into smaller parts.

Quakeunity said to have it online 2 days ago but no trace so far

I would love the transcript of Carmack keynote.

der_ton wrote:

pbmax wrote:

here's a live blog: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... e_liveblog

zeh wrote:

Thanks for the liveblogging link! Here's another:
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/895/895619p1.html

After reading both of those, I recommend the maximumpc one, it has way more info and is better written. The ign one was apparently written by some incompetent kid who didn't manage to concentrate past the first 20 minutes. Whenever it gets slightly technical, he doesn't even try to roughly reproduce it in his text.

supporting the brave ign-dude: no, he's just a human.

Quote:

7:22pm - The air conditioning in this room needs to get ratcheted up a notch. I'm amazed he's been talking nonstop with almost no break; he hasn't even touched the water that Todd gave him. He's been talking for almost 90 minutes.

anyway, the liveblogs were justification enough to understand that nothing new was brought to the table. waits patiently for godot.

/and btw. i HATE ign, cuz they raped my beloved 3dgamers "likes just to browse here around" behavior...

New Carmack interview:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=204508

dont wanna sound harsh but i really cant read anymore any of carmacks interviews; maybe go back to slashdot and just say what YOU think, not was someone likes to hear about...

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qwertz123 wrote:

dont wanna sound harsh but i really cant read anymore any of carmacks interviews; maybe go back to slashdot and just say what YOU think, not was someone likes to hear about...

Here's a concept for you: you're not obliged to click every single link you come across in the intertubes.

and here mine: dont respond to stupid sheit from stupid peeps, easy as that.

aim scum, so pls ban me bna, just to accomplish ur visitors!

Thanks to the board upgrade a while back it's possible to put people on an ignore list. I don't have the luxury as an moderator to use it but all you have to do is view the profile of the person you'd like to ignore and click "add as foe".

Quote:

What are my Friends and Foes lists?
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@qwertz123:

"Ban me. Ban me. Ban me."

What's the point? If you don't want to be here, there's the door.

qwertz123 wrote:

aim scum, so pls ban me bna, just to accomplish ur visitors!

Thankfuly, D3W owner and moderators have a policy of only banning people when they're really obnoxious, when it's clear they do not want to contribute anything to the overall discussion, and when it's clear they don't want to change their ways.

I'd say making posts like that (plus the rest of the discussion) accomplishes all three things. Please stop. You can always leave, if that's what bothers you. Demanding enough attention to elicit a ban won't accomplish anything.

Audio feed of the keynote. My kung fu is better than gamespot's so here's the direct link. :lol:

It cuts off near the end so it actually missed the most interesting part of the keynote (id Tech 6). You can use this to make up for it while we wait for a complete keynote video (i'd be happy with a complete audio feed even).

^ Oh, you're beautiful.

Mordenkainen wrote:

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Mordenkainen wrote:

Audio feed of the keynote. My kung fu is better than gamespot's so here's the direct link. :lol:

It cuts off near the end so it actually missed the most interesting part of the keynote (id Tech 6). You can use this to make up for it while we wait for a complete keynote video (i'd be happy with a complete audio feed even).

Thanks, can't wait to hear (or see?) the ending.

qwertz123 wrote:

and here mine: dont respond to stupid sheit from stupid peeps, easy as that.

aim scum, so pls ban me bna, just to accomplish ur visitors!

It's always good to have at least one person teaching the rest how bad attitude looks like. Therefore I consider you an asset.

Another interview with Carmack,very interesting stuff:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... _pc_gaming

Can't wait for part 2 where he will express his opinion on Nvidia's Cuda, Intel's Larrabee, and ATI's rumored Fusion.

The keynote video is online now!

http://quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/video/

ZizZ^ wrote:

The keynote video is online now!

http://quakecon.enemyterritory.tv/video/

sweet, does this have the Q&A by any chance? Would love to see that.

here's my q-con photo gallery:
http://sterlingshield.net/home/steve/St ... index.html

images of me & wife, stuff in BYOC, bawls chugging (she liked that), dallas, and our "id hunt". Sadly, I don't think we found id, both address we had seemed to be to building that didn't house them.

The Happy Friar wrote:

here's my q-con photo gallery:
http://sterlingshield.net/home/steve/St ... index.html

images of me & wife, stuff in BYOC, bawls chugging (she liked that), dallas, and our "id hunt". Sadly, I don't think we found id, both address we had seemed to be to building that didn't house them.

cool stuff Friar, thanks for sharing. I like how you got some pictures of the awesome cases that always show up to QuakeCon.

my fav this year was the grill. Totally awesome.

Go figure, the wife asked when we were down there "how come YOU don't do something like this?".

I know this topic has been beaten to death, but when the questioner asked Carmack about the "cleaning up" (ie no blood and gore) of Quake 3 for Quake Live, Carmack didn't go into detail about the maps themselves. Personally, I have to problem with taking the blood and gore and gibs out of the actual action in Quake live (which was confirmed) especially if the spark effect looks cool, but I would have a problem with them editing the art in the levels and such. Can anybody who's in the beta right now confirm if the pentagrams, skulls etc. have been taken out of maps like Q3Dm7 or not?

I think Carmack's comments around 1:46 in really put the heated debate on this forum into perspective.

to me, one of the best things of playing quake 1, 2 & 3 was watching people explode when you hit them with a rocket. It's part of the "awesomeness" factor. Like the baddies vaporizing in the last two Zelda games.

in the quakelive trailer, you see a guy disappear in a small firey explosion (istead of the gibs & blood splat).

Part 2 of maximum PC interview:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... tel_vs_ati

Very technical stuff.Recommend reading.