pbmax@Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:41 pm :
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53649



CrimsonHead@Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:54 pm :
Awesome, it must be their new tech 5 project, I'm so glad id and Raven both now will be making some new ip's. I'm getting very sick of sequels, I want some all new stuff that will bring that old feeling back like the first time I played Quake. This is great news, the Next couple years will be an extraordinary renaissance for PC gaming.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:40 am :
Here is a teaser:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14267334/ ... 71508.html



BloodRayne@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:58 am :
Looks interesting, out of the ordinary for Raven. Very nice. :)



qwertz123@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:51 am :
aaa111 wrote:
Here is a teaser:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14267334/ ... 71508.html


u'r my hero! thx.

so two teams working on two different projects at raven?



Kristian Joensen@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am :
CrimsonHead wrote:
Awesome, it must be their new tech 5 project, I'm so glad id and Raven both now will be making some new ip's. I'm getting very sick of sequels, I want some all new stuff that will bring that old feeling back like the first time I played Quake. This is great news, the Next couple years will be an extraordinary renaissance for PC gaming.


You say "they new tech 5 project", was it confirmed that they have licensed id Tech 5?



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:11 pm :
Yeah,that is what i also think.

I don't think its tech5.



CrimsonHead@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:12 pm :
No I don't know for fact it is tech 5, that's just an assumption or hopeful speculation on my part. I base it on the fact that usually when id makes a new engine their partner companies like Raven and Nerve are usually concurrently working on projects with the same technology. I could very well be mistaken about it.



ZizZ^@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:27 pm :
Prolly the same advanced doom3 engine they use for wolfenstein.



crappyatticus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:22 pm :
qwertz123 wrote:
aaa111 wrote:


u'r my hero! thx.

so two teams working on two different projects at raven?


I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...



The Happy Friar@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:55 pm :
CrimsonHead wrote:
No I don't know for fact it is tech 5, that's just an assumption or hopeful speculation on my part. I base it on the fact that usually when id makes a new engine their partner companies like Raven and Nerve are usually concurrently working on projects with the same technology. I could very well be mistaken about it.


Raven does a lot of non-id stuff. But I doubt it's by rage. id requires an id logo when their engine is used. No logo.

Honestly, that trailer screams "STALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when I watch it. :) Which isn't bad, I loved stalker.

But noticed ~33 seconds in, with the shockwave in the background. Dev's are still having issues with 3d heat-haze style FX. The ripple happens & the support bars are still but an "echo" ripples around them.



Kristus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:17 pm :
Yeah I noticed that too, but I got the feeling that it was intentional.



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:13 pm :
crappyatticus wrote:
I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...


i tried to visit raven a few years ago. i walked in the lobby with a camera and started snapping pictures and then asked the receptionist if someone could show me around. needless to say, i didn't past the lobby.

then she stood by the front door until my car left the parking lot... :)



The Happy Friar@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:20 pm :
you'd think it would be easier to talk to game folks when it would be to enter a nuclear weapons plant, wouldn't you? :)



Darkr0nin@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:34 pm :
Yeah, I saw that on Sony's (I think) E3. Looks like fun.



qwertz123@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:49 pm :
The Happy Friar wrote:
Honestly, that trailer screams "STALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when I watch it.


absoltuly right. the first thing which comes to mind. and like mentioned on shack, that post apocalyptic "feeling" in it makes me shudder. don't like it.

@engine: i don't think its id tech(whatever); maybe ue3?



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:35 pm :
i've read that its UE3, and by the looks of it i would concur.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:55 pm :
Where you read it?any link?



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:55 pm :
a hi-res version here if you're a shack member: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53714

i just read comments and rumors about it being UE3- nothing official. it doesn't look to be idtech4 to me nor does it look like idtech5. but it does look like E3.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:01 pm :
yeah that's possible.I remember Activision licenced UE3 a years before.I think they licenced it for it and let raven working on it.



crappyatticus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:44 pm :
pbmax wrote:
crappyatticus wrote:
I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...


i tried to visit raven a few years ago. i walked in the lobby with a camera and started snapping pictures and then asked the receptionist if someone could show me around. needless to say, i didn't past the lobby.

then she stood by the front door until my car left the parking lot... :)


Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:27 pm :
crappyatticus wrote:
Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.


i'm not kidding. i didn't think that i would actually get a tour, but i was in the area so i thought i'd stop by and at least see the building.

that's awesome you got a tour. did they let you see stuff being worked on?



crappyatticus@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:59 pm :
pbmax wrote:
crappyatticus wrote:
Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.


i'm not kidding. i didn't think that i would actually get a tour, but i was in the area so i thought i'd stop by and at least see the building.

that's awesome you got a tour. did they let you see stuff being worked on?


Not really. We (myself and 2 friends) went into a conference room and talked to 3 programmers and their recruiter (their recruiter was our 'tour guide') about what they looked for in new hires, how they got started, and what they normally worked on. After we walked around the studio and saw things like the development rooms, the gym, the 'commons' area, and the mo-cap studio. They talked about some really awesome tech they have to import models into a game but we didn't get to see it because they were remodelling part of the studio I think. Finished it off with a business card and a couple t-shirts which I've worn about once a week since I went.

While we were walking through though I glanced at a wall with some artwork on it and thought, 'Hm, it's odd they have Return to Castle Wolfenstein art up...' At that time I think the Wolfenstein sequel was rumored that it was in dev and at Raven but nothing was announced, now that Wolfenstein was announced at E3 2008 I would assume thats what it was. They mentioned how the Marvel brand was aquired for development by Activision and Raven was one of the primary studios behind Marvel development , and after the varied success of Ultimate Alliance and X-men Legends I kind of thought they were working on some more Marvel stuff.

They have different development rooms for the different teams and one we went through was heavily decked out in Marvel wall covers and stuff. Obviously there was loads of Quake 4 stuff around as well.



pbmax@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:44 pm :
aaa111 wrote:
yeah that's possible.I remember Activision licenced UE3 a years before.I think they licenced it for it and let raven working on it.


lunaran (used to work at raven, now at big rooster) commented on shacknews that it is idTech5.

so who knows... :?



Kristian Joensen@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:51 pm :
Link ?



pbmax@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:41 pm :
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=53714

its under this thread
Quote:
By: razlebol
Which engine are they using?


there's banter back and forth by some former raven guys. lunaran claims its idtech5, but maybe he's joking around...



TelMarine@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:03 pm :
pbmax wrote:
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=53714

its under this thread
Quote:
By: razlebol
Which engine are they using?


there's banter back and forth by some former raven guys. lunaran claims its idtech5, but maybe he's joking around...

sounds like a joke.



kat@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 pm :
It's Unreal Engine 3, not idtech.



qwertz123@Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:00 pm :
i think the same and by the look of it; a engine is a engine, u need just some talents to make "something" out of it.



pbmax@Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:41 pm :
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53649



CrimsonHead@Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:54 pm :
Awesome, it must be their new tech 5 project, I'm so glad id and Raven both now will be making some new ip's. I'm getting very sick of sequels, I want some all new stuff that will bring that old feeling back like the first time I played Quake. This is great news, the Next couple years will be an extraordinary renaissance for PC gaming.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:40 am :
Here is a teaser:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14267334/ ... 71508.html



BloodRayne@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:58 am :
Looks interesting, out of the ordinary for Raven. Very nice. :)



qwertz123@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:51 am :
aaa111 wrote:
Here is a teaser:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14267334/ ... 71508.html


u'r my hero! thx.

so two teams working on two different projects at raven?



Kristian Joensen@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am :
CrimsonHead wrote:
Awesome, it must be their new tech 5 project, I'm so glad id and Raven both now will be making some new ip's. I'm getting very sick of sequels, I want some all new stuff that will bring that old feeling back like the first time I played Quake. This is great news, the Next couple years will be an extraordinary renaissance for PC gaming.


You say "they new tech 5 project", was it confirmed that they have licensed id Tech 5?



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:11 pm :
Yeah,that is what i also think.

I don't think its tech5.



CrimsonHead@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:12 pm :
No I don't know for fact it is tech 5, that's just an assumption or hopeful speculation on my part. I base it on the fact that usually when id makes a new engine their partner companies like Raven and Nerve are usually concurrently working on projects with the same technology. I could very well be mistaken about it.



ZizZ^@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:27 pm :
Prolly the same advanced doom3 engine they use for wolfenstein.



crappyatticus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:22 pm :
qwertz123 wrote:
aaa111 wrote:


u'r my hero! thx.

so two teams working on two different projects at raven?


I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...



The Happy Friar@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:55 pm :
CrimsonHead wrote:
No I don't know for fact it is tech 5, that's just an assumption or hopeful speculation on my part. I base it on the fact that usually when id makes a new engine their partner companies like Raven and Nerve are usually concurrently working on projects with the same technology. I could very well be mistaken about it.


Raven does a lot of non-id stuff. But I doubt it's by rage. id requires an id logo when their engine is used. No logo.

Honestly, that trailer screams "STALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when I watch it. :) Which isn't bad, I loved stalker.

But noticed ~33 seconds in, with the shockwave in the background. Dev's are still having issues with 3d heat-haze style FX. The ripple happens & the support bars are still but an "echo" ripples around them.



Kristus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:17 pm :
Yeah I noticed that too, but I got the feeling that it was intentional.



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:13 pm :
crappyatticus wrote:
I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...


i tried to visit raven a few years ago. i walked in the lobby with a camera and started snapping pictures and then asked the receptionist if someone could show me around. needless to say, i didn't past the lobby.

then she stood by the front door until my car left the parking lot... :)



The Happy Friar@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:20 pm :
you'd think it would be easier to talk to game folks when it would be to enter a nuclear weapons plant, wouldn't you? :)



Darkr0nin@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:34 pm :
Yeah, I saw that on Sony's (I think) E3. Looks like fun.



qwertz123@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:49 pm :
The Happy Friar wrote:
Honestly, that trailer screams "STALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" when I watch it.


absoltuly right. the first thing which comes to mind. and like mentioned on shack, that post apocalyptic "feeling" in it makes me shudder. don't like it.

@engine: i don't think its id tech(whatever); maybe ue3?



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:35 pm :
i've read that its UE3, and by the looks of it i would concur.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:55 pm :
Where you read it?any link?



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:55 pm :
a hi-res version here if you're a shack member: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53714

i just read comments and rumors about it being UE3- nothing official. it doesn't look to be idtech4 to me nor does it look like idtech5. but it does look like E3.



aaa111@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:01 pm :
yeah that's possible.I remember Activision licenced UE3 a years before.I think they licenced it for it and let raven working on it.



crappyatticus@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:44 pm :
pbmax wrote:
crappyatticus wrote:
I visited Raven last August to see their studios and talk to some programmers about getting into the industry. Due to NDA I'm not sure what I can really say (I didn't see any games or anything) but I wouldn't stop counting at two teams at Raven...


i tried to visit raven a few years ago. i walked in the lobby with a camera and started snapping pictures and then asked the receptionist if someone could show me around. needless to say, i didn't past the lobby.

then she stood by the front door until my car left the parking lot... :)


Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.



pbmax@Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:27 pm :
crappyatticus wrote:
Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.


i'm not kidding. i didn't think that i would actually get a tour, but i was in the area so i thought i'd stop by and at least see the building.

that's awesome you got a tour. did they let you see stuff being worked on?



crappyatticus@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:59 pm :
pbmax wrote:
crappyatticus wrote:
Haha, I hope you're kidding, at lest somewhat. All I did was emailed them (I even used their sites info address) and set something up. I made sure it was during the week so it wasn't like some huge event thing. I drove about 5 hours there/ 5 hours back, and was only there for like 1 1/2 hours max, but it was worth it since I haven't been in a game studio before.

I was like some noob kid in a candy store, I kept looking around and smiling with this huge grin for no reason other than I was in a building where a game was being made.


i'm not kidding. i didn't think that i would actually get a tour, but i was in the area so i thought i'd stop by and at least see the building.

that's awesome you got a tour. did they let you see stuff being worked on?


Not really. We (myself and 2 friends) went into a conference room and talked to 3 programmers and their recruiter (their recruiter was our 'tour guide') about what they looked for in new hires, how they got started, and what they normally worked on. After we walked around the studio and saw things like the development rooms, the gym, the 'commons' area, and the mo-cap studio. They talked about some really awesome tech they have to import models into a game but we didn't get to see it because they were remodelling part of the studio I think. Finished it off with a business card and a couple t-shirts which I've worn about once a week since I went.

While we were walking through though I glanced at a wall with some artwork on it and thought, 'Hm, it's odd they have Return to Castle Wolfenstein art up...' At that time I think the Wolfenstein sequel was rumored that it was in dev and at Raven but nothing was announced, now that Wolfenstein was announced at E3 2008 I would assume thats what it was. They mentioned how the Marvel brand was aquired for development by Activision and Raven was one of the primary studios behind Marvel development , and after the varied success of Ultimate Alliance and X-men Legends I kind of thought they were working on some more Marvel stuff.

They have different development rooms for the different teams and one we went through was heavily decked out in Marvel wall covers and stuff. Obviously there was loads of Quake 4 stuff around as well.



pbmax@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:44 pm :
aaa111 wrote:
yeah that's possible.I remember Activision licenced UE3 a years before.I think they licenced it for it and let raven working on it.


lunaran (used to work at raven, now at big rooster) commented on shacknews that it is idTech5.

so who knows... :?



Kristian Joensen@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:51 pm :
Link ?



pbmax@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:41 pm :
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=53714

its under this thread
Quote:
By: razlebol
Which engine are they using?


there's banter back and forth by some former raven guys. lunaran claims its idtech5, but maybe he's joking around...



TelMarine@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:03 pm :
pbmax wrote:
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=53714

its under this thread
Quote:
By: razlebol
Which engine are they using?


there's banter back and forth by some former raven guys. lunaran claims its idtech5, but maybe he's joking around...

sounds like a joke.



kat@Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 pm :
It's Unreal Engine 3, not idtech.



qwertz123@Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:00 pm :
i think the same and by the look of it; a engine is a engine, u need just some talents to make "something" out of it.