artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:11 pm :
hey mans i have a huge problem with my Quake Editor it's lagging many i can't fix that problem please if anyone can help me
LDAsh@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:00 pm : Disable v-sync and anti-aliasing, mainly in your video card settings, but can also try via command line when launching the editor:-
Code:
Quake4.exe +set r_fullscreen 0 +set r_multiSamples 0 +set r_swapinterval 0 +vid_restart +editor
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:14 pm : again it's like that is huge lag and i can't do anything
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:23 pm : Define "lag"...? Do you mean laggy controls that have a delay, or do you mean your frame rate is too low?
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:31 pm : i mean frame by frame very slow
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:47 pm : The if you have AA disabled its either your system being out of date in some regard (Be it hardware or software) or maybe some random bug... But with the limited info you have given us its hard to say.
So post your system specs including driver versions and windows version first :p
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:37 pm : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+,768MB RAM,128MB Video,the drivers its ok because other games runs fast
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:23 pm : Thats not enough information.
Its a slow CPU, Plus you only have 768 system memory, and even worse you only have a 128meg graphics card...? You shouldn't be expecting any decent performance with that. Granted other games may run ok but you have to remember that the Doom 3 engine (What Quake 4 uses) is MUCH more demanding than other games out at the time.
With the info given it just looks like your system is too old and cant cope, so I imgine it would struggle. If you go ingame and drop the details down in the menu then go to the editor you will find the same detail applies there now too, so try that. But with that rig I wouldn't try running it on anything higher than 800x600 Medium quality with no AA at all.
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:01 pm : but when first time i run q4editor everything was ok,and the second starting lag and in the game i make the options on 800X600 Medium Quality,and Doom3Editor is ok and the Doom 3 runs fine i don't know why q4edit is bugging ;( thanks anyway
AnthonyJa@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:56 pm : So, maybe start off with answering our questions then....
what is your graphics card? manufacturer + model. What driver version? What OS?
What is your config like? Maybe post it somewhere that we can dl it.
What resolution are you trying to run it at? What res do you play the game at, and what framerate do you get?
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:48 pm : NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti 200,the driver version is 4.5.2.3. Windows SE
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:56 pm : but lag only in the field in what you do when the tick level of textures and other folders or fail everything is okay but when I do field level begins inhumane lag
gavavva@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:00 pm : "NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti 200,the driver version is 4.5.2.3. Windows SE"
And theres your issue... A GeForce THREE? Come on man, you can pick up a GeForce 8 for £20 these days... But thats the problem. Editing uses more resources as you don't get hinting until you compile and run ingame. So the editor will run a LOT slower anyway, but on a GF3...? I wouldn't even try running the game myself.
Time to upgrade!
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:04 pm : man i can play the game without lag if i make the resolution 800X600 and Medium Quality and before i preinstalling my windows i was can make maps for quake.Well i will make maps with QuArK.
gavavva@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:11 pm : You don't seem to understand what I'm getting at...
First of all, it makes no difference you can make maps for Quake with QuArK, because Quarks an old, old old terrible editor for the old Quake with (last time I checked) VERY limited support for Quake 4... In other words, it will likely map with everything off, that includes shadows, the biggest killer of frame rate in the editor. So, you will be mapping with very old standards and everything disabled.
You can run Quake 4 just about if you drop everything down... But like I said, Q4Rad is different to Q4. Just because you can run one doesnt mean the other will be fine. Q4Rad doesn't display portals/hints etc, which means it renders the whole thing in one go. It will be even worse when you use real time preview.
Its your card man, simple as that. Its far too old to be keeping up to speed these days, and there isn't much to do about it.
BloodRayne@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:26 pm : Gavavva speaks the truth. If you want to edit maps, upgrade your system.
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:52 pm : well,today i will buy 2 video cards for my 2 computers and 1gb ram for 2 anyway but i think i buy a 2 new computers with 2.5gb ram,dual core 2.5ghz and 512mb video if i have a time...thank all
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:50 pm : hey mans i fix it AA was a "NO" i made it "Yes" and now everything is ok
BNA!@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:21 pm : artic2 wrote:
hey mans i fix it AA was a "NO" i made it "Yes" and now everything is ok
Of all things this makes sense the least (unless I got lost in translation).
rich_is_bored@Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:28 am : Translation:
Hey guys, I fixed it. Anti-aliasing was off. I turned it on and now everything is okay.
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:11 pm : hey mans i have a huge problem with my Quake Editor it's lagging many i can't fix that problem please if anyone can help me
LDAsh@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:00 pm : Disable v-sync and anti-aliasing, mainly in your video card settings, but can also try via command line when launching the editor:-
Code:
Quake4.exe +set r_fullscreen 0 +set r_multiSamples 0 +set r_swapinterval 0 +vid_restart +editor
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:14 pm : again it's like that is huge lag and i can't do anything
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:23 pm : Define "lag"...? Do you mean laggy controls that have a delay, or do you mean your frame rate is too low?
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:31 pm : i mean frame by frame very slow
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:47 pm : The if you have AA disabled its either your system being out of date in some regard (Be it hardware or software) or maybe some random bug... But with the limited info you have given us its hard to say.
So post your system specs including driver versions and windows version first :p
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:37 pm : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+,768MB RAM,128MB Video,the drivers its ok because other games runs fast
gavavva@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:23 pm : Thats not enough information.
Its a slow CPU, Plus you only have 768 system memory, and even worse you only have a 128meg graphics card...? You shouldn't be expecting any decent performance with that. Granted other games may run ok but you have to remember that the Doom 3 engine (What Quake 4 uses) is MUCH more demanding than other games out at the time.
With the info given it just looks like your system is too old and cant cope, so I imgine it would struggle. If you go ingame and drop the details down in the menu then go to the editor you will find the same detail applies there now too, so try that. But with that rig I wouldn't try running it on anything higher than 800x600 Medium quality with no AA at all.
artic2@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:01 pm : but when first time i run q4editor everything was ok,and the second starting lag and in the game i make the options on 800X600 Medium Quality,and Doom3Editor is ok and the Doom 3 runs fine i don't know why q4edit is bugging ;( thanks anyway
AnthonyJa@Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:56 pm : So, maybe start off with answering our questions then....
what is your graphics card? manufacturer + model. What driver version? What OS?
What is your config like? Maybe post it somewhere that we can dl it.
What resolution are you trying to run it at? What res do you play the game at, and what framerate do you get?
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:48 pm : NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti 200,the driver version is 4.5.2.3. Windows SE
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:56 pm : but lag only in the field in what you do when the tick level of textures and other folders or fail everything is okay but when I do field level begins inhumane lag
gavavva@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:00 pm : "NVIDIA GeForce 3 Ti 200,the driver version is 4.5.2.3. Windows SE"
And theres your issue... A GeForce THREE? Come on man, you can pick up a GeForce 8 for £20 these days... But thats the problem. Editing uses more resources as you don't get hinting until you compile and run ingame. So the editor will run a LOT slower anyway, but on a GF3...? I wouldn't even try running the game myself.
Time to upgrade!
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:04 pm : man i can play the game without lag if i make the resolution 800X600 and Medium Quality and before i preinstalling my windows i was can make maps for quake.Well i will make maps with QuArK.
gavavva@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:11 pm : You don't seem to understand what I'm getting at...
First of all, it makes no difference you can make maps for Quake with QuArK, because Quarks an old, old old terrible editor for the old Quake with (last time I checked) VERY limited support for Quake 4... In other words, it will likely map with everything off, that includes shadows, the biggest killer of frame rate in the editor. So, you will be mapping with very old standards and everything disabled.
You can run Quake 4 just about if you drop everything down... But like I said, Q4Rad is different to Q4. Just because you can run one doesnt mean the other will be fine. Q4Rad doesn't display portals/hints etc, which means it renders the whole thing in one go. It will be even worse when you use real time preview.
Its your card man, simple as that. Its far too old to be keeping up to speed these days, and there isn't much to do about it.
BloodRayne@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:26 pm : Gavavva speaks the truth. If you want to edit maps, upgrade your system.
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:52 pm : well,today i will buy 2 video cards for my 2 computers and 1gb ram for 2 anyway but i think i buy a 2 new computers with 2.5gb ram,dual core 2.5ghz and 512mb video if i have a time...thank all
artic2@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:50 pm : hey mans i fix it AA was a "NO" i made it "Yes" and now everything is ok
BNA!@Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:21 pm : artic2 wrote:
hey mans i fix it AA was a "NO" i made it "Yes" and now everything is ok
Of all things this makes sense the least (unless I got lost in translation).
rich_is_bored@Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:28 am : Translation:
Hey guys, I fixed it. Anti-aliasing was off. I turned it on and now everything is okay.
BNA!@Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:38 pm :
rich_is_bored wrote:
Translation:
Hey guys, I fixed it. Anti-aliasing was off. I turned it on and now everything is okay.
Tetzlaff@Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:45 pm : I also have a problem with the Q4 editor - everything works fine in the Doom3 editor, so it should not be a hardware issue on my side.
Problem: the preview 3D cam doesn´t always work right - both in regular view mode and in render mode. Especially in larger spaces (medium size outdoor scenery for example) brushes only become visible when selected, most times there is nothing visible in the cam view. Same with render mode, which almost doesn´t work at all in larger areas, and it doesn´t do anything when I update render view with F4.
gavavva@Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:12 pm : Cubic clipping. Click the big button on the toolbar called "cubic clipping" and that should sort it out.
Tetzlaff@Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:45 pm : Thanks gavavva! Easy as that.