DoomzRules@Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:31 pm :
Hello, yes I know I was the guy who asked for a remake of DOOM 1 and 2 on DOOM 3 engine which I now realize is impossible given the time it would take. Also, umm... I just have one simple request.... could someone here make the DOOM 3 Alpha Shotgun and then put on DOOM 3 Filefront. It's just I feel (and I'm pretty sure a lot of OTHER people) are disappointed with the new DOOM 3 final shotgun. The one in the Alpha resembled the DOOM 1 shotgun a lot more and it looked a LOT more cooler. So umm... yeah :P I didn't mean to disturb anyone in this awesome DOOM community. But umm yeah.


Also, you don't HAVE to do it. But if you want to, that's fine because I think 50% of the DOOM 3 community would want DOOM 3 Alpha Shotgun. Well, I'm not EXACTLY sure... so IDK honestly. But if I offended anybody by saying 50%... please forgive me! :3



Douglas Quaid@Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:15 pm :
Quote:
Also, you don't HAVE to do it


Phew! :)



NX-317@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:57 am :
Unfortunately, your request is unlikely to be fulfilled. It was actually requested before, but still isn't done.

What you ask involves finding differences between alpha model format and Doom3 release model format, then changing the alpha's shotgun model so that Doom3 release could read it.

So your best bet is to try and make it yourself or, alternatively, maybe have a look at Phobos mod's shotgun? Who knows, maybe you'll like it and just wait for Phobos mod instead.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:42 pm :
I am trying to manually convert the old version md5 of D3 Alpha Shotgun into the new version md5 required for actual Doom 3, i have 25% made, but because there is no program to convert automatically from an old md5 to a new md5 version, its a tedious and boring to do and also i just can do it at some times but if some day i get it, i let you all know.



DoomzRules@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:38 pm :
Big fan of your mods Dafama. Anyways, you can take your time. Nobody is rushing anybody here. And 25% complete is a good start so far. That means there's only 3/4 left to finish.... and then once that's done... well, somebody will have to code the weapon, put the Trent Reznor Shotgun sounds to it, and all this other stuff.



The Happy Friar@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:35 pm :
Could an old Blender md5 importer load the old format & then use the newer converter to export?



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:53 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
Big fan of your mods Dafama. Anyways, you can take your time. Nobody is rushing anybody here. And 25% complete is a good start so far. That means there's only 3/4 left to finish.... and then once that's done... well, somebody will have to code the weapon, put the Trent Reznor Shotgun sounds to it, and all this other stuff.


Thanks @DoomzRules, yes, its already included the Trent Reznor sounds + my own D3 E3 Alpha sound mod that complements it and that the full version is not still uploaded anywhere, like many other mods i have already enhanced and more up to date than the versions currently on the sites, just is the time for convert it manually because i have not been able to found any automatic converter for the old md5 to the most new version, this and then i have tones of new fixed and enhanced mods for upload, but when i have time i uploaded one by one all the mods that the original mod author let me to update, and of course now i am not as intrusive on the mods and i keep much more the original style of the mod, just fix the bugs specially, not like before that i was too intrusive in some mods.

Also i should upload some of my own mods and new versions of the Alpha mods already made too.



DoomzRules@Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:22 pm :
Any updates on the Alpha Shotgun?! Also, umm... I would like the Alpha Shotgun completed because a lot of people wished the Alpha Shotgun was in DOOM 3. I did..... I actually cried super hard when the Alpha Shotgun wasn't in the game and I complained because I was "tricked by the trailer". I didn't know back then, and I still wish the Alpha Shotgun is in the game.



Zombie13@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:47 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
Any updates on the Alpha Shotgun?! Also, umm... I would like the Alpha Shotgun completed because a lot of people wished the Alpha Shotgun was in DOOM 3. I did..... I actually cried super hard when the Alpha Shotgun wasn't in the game and I complained because I was "tricked by the trailer". I didn't know back then, and I still wish the Alpha Shotgun is in the game.


If you never saw the alpha you would've never made this thread.

No one will port it over, ever. So you're gonna have to do it yourself.



BNA!@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:37 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
I actually cried super hard


Hush hush little baby... don't you cry tonight...



DoomzRules@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:32 pm :
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P



BNA!@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:44 pm :
DoomzRules wrote:
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P


That makes you 13 now - too young to hang out here.



reko@Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:50 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P


Then learn to do something.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:59 am :
Not the Alpha shotgun still but i have newer versions of my Alpha mods than the ones present on web pages.



jmarshall23@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:24 am :
Are you hand converting it? That's going to lead to problems. You might consider writing a automated script to do it for you if you know what the differences are in the formats.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:06 am :
jmarshall23 wrote:
Are you hand converting it? That's going to lead to problems. You might consider writing a automated script to do it for you if you know what the differences are in the formats.


I am just trying, i don't think is going to work or to be finished even, yes i do hand converted, but sure i make mistakes, well, just trying, at least there would be something, then if someone can later fix any bugs, i would post here... :D



DoomzRules@Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:31 pm :
Hello, yes I know I was the guy who asked for a remake of DOOM 1 and 2 on DOOM 3 engine which I now realize is impossible given the time it would take. Also, umm... I just have one simple request.... could someone here make the DOOM 3 Alpha Shotgun and then put on DOOM 3 Filefront. It's just I feel (and I'm pretty sure a lot of OTHER people) are disappointed with the new DOOM 3 final shotgun. The one in the Alpha resembled the DOOM 1 shotgun a lot more and it looked a LOT more cooler. So umm... yeah :P I didn't mean to disturb anyone in this awesome DOOM community. But umm yeah.


Also, you don't HAVE to do it. But if you want to, that's fine because I think 50% of the DOOM 3 community would want DOOM 3 Alpha Shotgun. Well, I'm not EXACTLY sure... so IDK honestly. But if I offended anybody by saying 50%... please forgive me! :3



Douglas Quaid@Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:15 pm :
Quote:
Also, you don't HAVE to do it


Phew! :)



NX-317@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:57 am :
Unfortunately, your request is unlikely to be fulfilled. It was actually requested before, but still isn't done.

What you ask involves finding differences between alpha model format and Doom3 release model format, then changing the alpha's shotgun model so that Doom3 release could read it.

So your best bet is to try and make it yourself or, alternatively, maybe have a look at Phobos mod's shotgun? Who knows, maybe you'll like it and just wait for Phobos mod instead.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:42 pm :
I am trying to manually convert the old version md5 of D3 Alpha Shotgun into the new version md5 required for actual Doom 3, i have 25% made, but because there is no program to convert automatically from an old md5 to a new md5 version, its a tedious and boring to do and also i just can do it at some times but if some day i get it, i let you all know.



DoomzRules@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:38 pm :
Big fan of your mods Dafama. Anyways, you can take your time. Nobody is rushing anybody here. And 25% complete is a good start so far. That means there's only 3/4 left to finish.... and then once that's done... well, somebody will have to code the weapon, put the Trent Reznor Shotgun sounds to it, and all this other stuff.



The Happy Friar@Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:35 pm :
Could an old Blender md5 importer load the old format & then use the newer converter to export?



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:53 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
Big fan of your mods Dafama. Anyways, you can take your time. Nobody is rushing anybody here. And 25% complete is a good start so far. That means there's only 3/4 left to finish.... and then once that's done... well, somebody will have to code the weapon, put the Trent Reznor Shotgun sounds to it, and all this other stuff.


Thanks @DoomzRules, yes, its already included the Trent Reznor sounds + my own D3 E3 Alpha sound mod that complements it and that the full version is not still uploaded anywhere, like many other mods i have already enhanced and more up to date than the versions currently on the sites, just is the time for convert it manually because i have not been able to found any automatic converter for the old md5 to the most new version, this and then i have tones of new fixed and enhanced mods for upload, but when i have time i uploaded one by one all the mods that the original mod author let me to update, and of course now i am not as intrusive on the mods and i keep much more the original style of the mod, just fix the bugs specially, not like before that i was too intrusive in some mods.

Also i should upload some of my own mods and new versions of the Alpha mods already made too.



DoomzRules@Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:22 pm :
Any updates on the Alpha Shotgun?! Also, umm... I would like the Alpha Shotgun completed because a lot of people wished the Alpha Shotgun was in DOOM 3. I did..... I actually cried super hard when the Alpha Shotgun wasn't in the game and I complained because I was "tricked by the trailer". I didn't know back then, and I still wish the Alpha Shotgun is in the game.



Zombie13@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:47 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
Any updates on the Alpha Shotgun?! Also, umm... I would like the Alpha Shotgun completed because a lot of people wished the Alpha Shotgun was in DOOM 3. I did..... I actually cried super hard when the Alpha Shotgun wasn't in the game and I complained because I was "tricked by the trailer". I didn't know back then, and I still wish the Alpha Shotgun is in the game.


If you never saw the alpha you would've never made this thread.

No one will port it over, ever. So you're gonna have to do it yourself.



BNA!@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:37 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
I actually cried super hard


Hush hush little baby... don't you cry tonight...



DoomzRules@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:32 pm :
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P



BNA!@Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:44 pm :
DoomzRules wrote:
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P


That makes you 13 now - too young to hang out here.



reko@Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:50 am :
DoomzRules wrote:
XD! That was when I was 4 or something. XD! Anyways, I don't really know how to make a weapons model or model... I know how to edit sounds and music in DOOM 1 and that's about it.... :P


Then learn to do something.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:59 am :
Not the Alpha shotgun still but i have newer versions of my Alpha mods than the ones present on web pages.



jmarshall23@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:24 am :
Are you hand converting it? That's going to lead to problems. You might consider writing a automated script to do it for you if you know what the differences are in the formats.



Dafama2k7@Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:06 am :
jmarshall23 wrote:
Are you hand converting it? That's going to lead to problems. You might consider writing a automated script to do it for you if you know what the differences are in the formats.


I am just trying, i don't think is going to work or to be finished even, yes i do hand converted, but sure i make mistakes, well, just trying, at least there would be something, then if someone can later fix any bugs, i would post here... :D